Curse

mmgambit · Jul 16, 2008, 08:15 AM // 08:15

Alright. Here is my contribution to guru instead of just my items i have for sale

Here is a very profitable run that i make daily to farm for unids to sell and tomes as well. This is the HM Snowman dungeon (sry if you have already done this, dont mean to get ur hopes all up

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The build:

Snowman Sin Build: [build= Snowman Sin;OwZToY/85R6zj0ZIDchvIYkmBA][/build]

Equip: Same runes as the old UW sin build i havent done anything different. I recommend having the sup rune so that you have a little room for error on the recharge of SF

Weapon needs to be fire damage and a staff with +20 Energy, +20% enchants, and HSR works excellent!!! But i also run a sword offhand combo just because i think it looks good and i run a -5 20% and HCT 10% offhand.

How to use the build:

If you have done the UW sin like i know most have then you know how to keep SF up. If not there are countless other posts im sure. What i like to do with the others is use Fire Attunement, then glyph of lesser energy, then rodgarts, then phoenix. Gives you more energy and makes it so you can usually get about 2 in before having to redo SF.....the second time not using GoLE. Remember to always have ur 30 energy for SF and in the trap areas if you find urself always running low on life, u can use paradox to recharge neutrality faster. Just make sure you use it around the 50% recharged area of SF so that it is available again for SF recast.

The Run:

Start off by talkin to good ol Koris. Be in HM and have a very empty inventory because i promise you it will def fill up. When you go into the dungeon there are 5 areas where there are guys that you can aggro and get into a tight enough grp to kill. Start out by getting the point bonus then put up SF when you see the snowman start is dumb little speech and aggro/run past the first grp of plain snowmen until you can see a second grp farther down. These snowmen will eventually run down to you so you can kill both grps at once. You will notice koris dies....no big deal. You dont need him for the run, but the only downside is that you cant complete the dungeon because he does die. But anyways......grp both of the aggroed snowman grps into as tight a circle as u can and get to it. Ussually it takes 4 phoenix's to kill the first amount of snowmen. You can then regrp what is left and take them out the same way. Onward......

The next area is the room with the next rez shrine. There are mischievious and rouge snowmen that grp nicely here. Try to aggro the mischievious into a tight grp and the rouges will all run up around you on their own like the mindblades of old : ) Wait for all of the rouges to grp around you before starting to use the kill skills because you can end this grp all in 1 shot if you do it right. Once dead, pick up the rez shrine points and continue.

The next area you will kill in is next to where the wintersday moas are right after the long hallway with the ice guysers and the lines of snowmen. Dont bother with these guys because they look like they pull, but run off when you start to hit them. It is a waste of time to try and fight them individually. There are two grps in this next room that you will aggro and fight. One i believe are mischievious again and the others are blessed. One thing to watch out for is that there are two avalanches that hit you no matter what thru your SF so u need to watch what your health is. make sure you have over 200 health because they hit for 100 each. Once the two grps are pulled it will take you two times to kill em all. Kill as many as u can first time then regrp and kill rest. Pick up ur stuff and go on to the hardest area.

The next place is around the corner to the left where the dungeon key is. As difficult as this is to do, i find it is profitable just to tough it out and get the key. Before going up, go activate the shrine, but dont take the points yet. Then make sure you are at full health and energy before going up the path. This area is hard because there are 6 ice traps that hit thru SF and 6 guysers that also hit thru and do major damage. This is why feigned nuetrality is so important. Pull as many of the snowmen as you dare, usually half the grp for me and get them so they are standing on the first bottom sets of guysers. These snowmen dont grp and take damage easily and they have self heals that really make using phoenix a pain and time consuming. you still get points and all drops by using the guysers to do ur dirty work. Standing at the bottom set of guysers insures you only take damage from the lowest set of traps and therefore minimizing how much life you lose. Once all are dead go grab what is left. the angry snowman holding the key does not pull to the guysers so dont try. grp the snowmen on top of the top guysers and use neutrality to keep the HP up. Once all dead heal up and get ur energy back before goin after key man.

The angry holding the key has frozen burst which hits hard thru ur SF which coupled with the traps can threaten to kill you. So this is what i do. Go stand in a corner as far away from traps as you can so they do not hit u, then put rodgarts on him and wand away.... you reapply rodgarts once more and he dies easily. The traps and guysers go down and it is easy and safe to pick up ur drops. God get the increased points from the shrine and off to the last area.

The last grp that i hit is Freezie, the monk boss. Aggro the grp and get them pulled as tight as can and it will take u at least 2 times to kill the grp. Make sure you constantly wand Freezie because he is a boss and has high Hp as well as 1 heal spell that he usually uses only once. I have never gotten anything dropped from Freezie in the way of elite tomes, but never say never.

Well that is the full run. It takes anywhere from 20-25 minutes depending on how long you have been doin it and yields a whopping 7-15 golds depending on the run first off and also if you bring Lockpicks. There are at least 4 locked chests and can be as many as 6 total. Monk tomes drop as well and you can get as many as 4 in a run, depends on the day. I can usually fill an entire inventory with unid golds after about 4-5 runs and sell for 5k each so it is def profitable.

If you have any questions or want to see a run if you have any problems just pm me in game at Silent Gambit or on here and i will check for a few days.

Hope this helps any of you who go for that wisdom title. I know it has helped me in my quest for riches

but i burn too much money on z-keys and lockpicks so i never see it in the end. Thanks for readin this if you do get this far and ENJOY!!!!

Pour One For Jose · Jul 16, 2008, 08:21 AM // 08:21

It would help tremendously and I would appreciate it if you posted a video or provided a link of you doing your run.

mmgambit · Jul 16, 2008, 08:49 AM // 08:49

lol well might have some trouble with that cause i have never done a vid nor do i know how to do one. Maybe if someone knew how to run the video they could die off and record it and help me with that. i dunno. Suggestions there if possible

A Leprechaun · Jul 16, 2008, 09:27 AM // 09:27

I did it with my A/E sliver raptor farming build ^^. It worked and I killed everything, but I must have left one or two because Koris died and didn't res so I didn't get the reward

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Good guide.

~A Leprechuan~

PinkD · Jul 16, 2008, 10:02 AM // 10:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Leprechaun

I did it with my A/E sliver raptor farming build ^^. It worked and I killed everything, but I must have left one or two because Koris died and didn't res so I didn't get the reward

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Good guide.

~A Leprechuan~

I think SF+sliver is more quick kill. I use this build since now I got R5 Del title.

The Rift · Jul 16, 2008, 10:42 AM // 10:42

Youre template code is not correctly m8, at least doesent work for me

Shayne Hawke · Jul 16, 2008, 11:25 AM // 11:25

[pre][build=Snowman Sin;OwZToY/85R6zj0ZlDchvlYkmBA][/build][/pre] =

[build=Snowman Sin;OwZToY/85R6zj0ZlDchvlYkmBA][/build]

lrn2maekbuildznshit.

Conclusion: Your build is bad because nobody can have three professions. Try giving us a code that works?

mmgambit · Jul 16, 2008, 12:29 PM // 12:29

sry i will get it as soon as i get to my normal comp. was using comp with dl client. that might be the reason

and just fyi im buddies with all the guys at anet....so most of my builds have at least 2 elites and 4 professions. They just ask that i dont run with the other guys as to not make u jealous.

Sisyphus · Jul 16, 2008, 01:03 PM // 13:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke

[pre][build=Snowman Sin;OwZToY/85R6zj0ZlDchvlYkmBA][/build][/pre] =

[build=Snowman Sin;OwZToY/85R6zj0ZlDchvlYkmBA][/build]

I would assume that Barbed Arrow is supposed to be Mark of Rodgort since he mentions using it against the Angry Snowman.

Michman · Jul 16, 2008, 01:26 PM // 13:26

Since the raptor run took a hit I have also started making this run with my Sin. Averaging about 7-10 golds per run.

This is the build I use:

Glyph of Swiftness
Deadly Paradox
Shadow Form
Dash
Sliver Armor
Radiation Field
Glyph of Lesser Energy
Earth Attunement

With groups of 25+ enemies Sliver Armor even with the -50% damage reduction still has plenty of killing power left. And radiation field sucks their health away quickly.

One other note in regards to the section of the run that includes the Angry Snowman. He's the one you have to kill to get the dungeon key to proceed toward Freezie. I don't worry about the ice geysers or turrents...I use Dash to sprint past them while targeting the Angry snowman...1 Sliver Armor is plenty to kill him which turns off all the traps.

Once you open the dungeon door ignore the snowmen arranged in a horseshoe pattern and run left to Freezie and his group. After killing them and getting the chest you can go back to the horseshoe group and use dash to run in and get this last chest and end your run.

And Freezie does indeed drop Elite Monk tomes.

mmgambit · Jul 16, 2008, 02:09 PM // 14:09

[build=Snowman Sin;OwZToY/85R6zj0ZIDchvIYkmBA][/build]

I dont know the effectiveness of the sliver build i just roll this because it was super quick and easy before the SF nerf. Did lots of damage and as AOE. But if sliver is quicker then by all means use that.

In regards to the snowmen around the key holder, i DO bother with them because it is usually another 1-3 gold drops and i dont like to waste any chance of making money.

AOD_EaSyKiLL · Jul 16, 2008, 07:58 PM // 19:58

I do this as well.

I use the sliver build, with EBSoH. I can kill enough to get koris to the end and get the chest in about 35-40 minutes depending on spawns and stuff.

Otherwise I go for chests/golds, using Dark Escape and only killing the large mobs: 1st 2 grps, 2nd grp by shrine, 2 big groups near the avalanches, group around boss key, and freezie group.

I get monk, mesmer, dervish and warrior tomes, although the warrior and mesmer are a little rare.

Michman · Jul 16, 2008, 10:02 PM // 22:02

I also do the group around the Angry snowman...I just kill him first so the traps shut off.

I've gotten every tome but ranger and rit in this run. Paragon tomes are after crossing the bridge after the 1st turrents. Sin tomes come from the avalanche area group and the angry snowman is an ele, though not a boss so no elite.

Marverick · Jul 16, 2008, 11:12 PM // 23:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michman

Since the raptor run took a hit I have also started making this run with my Sin. Averaging about 7-10 golds per run.

This is the build I use:

Glyph of Swiftness
Deadly Paradox
Shadow Form
Dash
Sliver Armor
Radiation Field
Glyph of Lesser Energy
Earth Attunement

With groups of 25+ enemies Sliver Armor even with the -50% damage reduction still has plenty of killing power left. And radiation field sucks their health away quickly.

One other note in regards to the section of the run that includes the Angry Snowman. He's the one you have to kill to get the dungeon key to proceed toward Freezie. I don't worry about the ice geysers or turrents...I use Dash to sprint past them while targeting the Angry snowman...1 Sliver Armor is plenty to kill him which turns off all the traps.

Once you open the dungeon door ignore the snowmen arranged in a horseshoe pattern and run left to Freezie and his group. After killing them and getting the chest you can go back to the horseshoe group and use dash to run in and get this last chest and end your run.

And Freezie does indeed drop Elite Monk tomes.

Are Snowman even affected by disease?

If so then Radiation Field + Sliver Armor probably would be the fastest.

mmgambit · Jul 17, 2008, 01:05 AM // 01:05

yea they are because they turn into corpses for mms to use em

exploiter · Jul 21, 2008, 12:06 PM // 12:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michman

Since the raptor run took a hit I have also started making this run with my Sin. Averaging about 7-10 golds per run.

This is the build I use:

Glyph of Swiftness
Deadly Paradox
Shadow Form
Dash
Sliver Armor
Radiation Field
Glyph of Lesser Energy
Earth Attunement

What should I take instead of Radiation Field? No asura rank on my Assassin

Joe Fierce · Jul 21, 2008, 11:24 PM // 23:24

well, being able to solo something simply to solo it is great and all but, wtf would you wanna farm snowmen for out of all the things you could solo sf in the same amount of time?

yes, they may give the same golds and stuff as other farmable enemies, and theres a fancy gift of a cookie at the end chest, but eff that, it is MY personal opinion (and this doesn't mean its right) that you'd be better off farming uw with the same amount of time, if i'm missing some sort of amazing reason why it would be beneficial to farm this instead, please inform me, i really honestly want to know, i'm not just trying to flame.

My Lipgloss is Cool · Jul 22, 2008, 01:42 AM // 01:42

There's a lot of enemies, so lots of drops

It's easier than UW, takes less time, and it's free

More chances at different tomes

Dwarven Reputation

buckscrib · Jul 22, 2008, 01:59 AM // 01:59

Nice build. I'll have to try it.

Joe Fierce · Jul 22, 2008, 06:59 AM // 06:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by My Lipgloss is Cool

There's a lot of enemies, so lots of drops

It's easier than UW, takes less time, and it's free

More chances at different tomes

Dwarven Reputation

the other points i can understand but, how much easier does it gotta be? =P